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welcome to the hidden truth show podcast

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in our deep dive into the transgender

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movement what you're about to see is an

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excerpt from part two of my interview

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with Sabrina Richmond my fraternity

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brother who became my sister if you

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enjoy this excerpt you can hear the

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entire interview on our podcast hidden

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truth show wherever you listen to

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podcasts tell me what your thinking is

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about Steven Tyler it's not really just

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Steven Tyler but you know Steven Tyler

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was our president of you know a rocker

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guy that paints his nails all the time

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his hair is long all the time frequently

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wears like eyeliner and some degree of

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makeup a lot of jewelry you know in

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every kind of way fashions himself just

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like a woman and you know I certainly

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did that and got away with it for years

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it was such an outlet for me and while

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Steven Tyler might be all

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through-and-through man and I don't

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doubt that it still makes me scratch my

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head what of these guys who do this

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really are trans and are kind of living

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the same existence I had for a long time

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are you wearing again don't have to name

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names but are you aware of anyone else

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that was your same circumstances where

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you did kind of allow yourself they

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allow themselves to act out the trans

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part by being rocker and no but you but

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you have a theory that there probably

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are others yeah and it's funny because

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you know I still you know go to rock

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concerts and you know everything from

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the rainbow and on the Sunset Strip

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which is a rock club to going to

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concerts and believe it or not like the

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rock scene is a pretty kind of rednecky

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vibe you know and where even though the

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girls love these guys that look like

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girls they still want them being all

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like through-and-through guys yeah which

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is kind of interesting well you know I

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throw Mick Jagger into that I guess he's

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not a manly man by any stretch but women

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are crazy

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attracted to him just like they were to

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you women like I know if it's the bad

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boy no I mean they like their guys

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pretty

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and that's the funny thing they like

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their guys pretty but you know you know

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it's pretty redneck and in fact the only

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when you say rednecky scene you're

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talking about the fan base your fan base

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you know yeah in fact the only time I've

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been verbally attacked in public for

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being trans was at the rainbow by a

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rocker chick who was visiting with a

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band from Pennsylvania they haven't even

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playing on the strip that day and she

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was in Rainbow Rowell and she came over

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and just started attacking me like

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you're a man and you know I look just

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like I look now you were there just in

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the crowd I'm just hanging out but just

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as a woman he is you listen it was

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post-transition so you know I have my my

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breasts and everything going on and for

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whatever reason she clocked me and came

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over and and started screaming at me and

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she even followed me into the restroom

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later and when I went to the restroom

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it's like there's a man in the restroom

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boy did and she's pounding on my thing

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and I came this close to like opening

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door and just taken her down well I do

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you know going back to rockers I mean I

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do have a little personal theory that I

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would guess that there are many of them

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that are perhaps gay and in the closet

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gay and I say that in part just because

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in high school in college it seems like

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guys that are into music musical theater

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etc seemed to be a higher percentage gay

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than in the regular community so I

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wouldn't say gay but I was definitely

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say bisexual uh-huh

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so in the so you in in in in the closet

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though about it

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absolutely in fact most quote-unquote

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heterosexual males are totally in the

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closet about they're bisexual tendencies

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like we discussed before the Kinsey

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study showed north of seventy percent of

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all males being in some degree bisexual

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meaning they have will or going to have

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at least one sexual encounter with the

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opposite or the same sex sometime in

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their life you know certainly you look

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at the female proportions females are no

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different than men females are in this

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culture allowed to be bisexual open

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and it's it's you know heralded but men

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god forbid you should tell you know your

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guy friends yeah I'm thinking about a

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little dick it's just not gonna fly and

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your guys are gonna start you know your

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guys will call you out just like what

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are you gay dude you know the whole gay

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thing and you know the fact is like in

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our culture guys can't be bisexual they

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can only be straight or gay thank you

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